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	<title>Comments on: The Collapse of Peer Review</title>
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		<title>By: msphd</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2008/10/06/the-end-of-peer-review/#comment-2001</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 18:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the life sciences, we&#039;re desperately wishing the shiny-paper journals would go away.

Senior researchers don&#039;t want to publish there, but feel pressured to help their trainees get jobs by publishing there. 

Trainees don&#039;t want to publish there, but feel pressured to publish there if we want jobs. 

A negative feedback loop is exactly what we need to get rid of it, and switch to other possibilities (like wiki-type review online). 

Unfortunately, it&#039;s hard to see how we can break the cycle, unless senior researchers could be induced to stop including themselves on author lists (even when they have contributed next to nothing but their reputations). 

I&#039;d rather see a shift to junior researchers publishing independently, acknowledging but their advisors but not giving them all the credit. Then maybe the pressure to publish in certain journals would lessen if the job market would learn to value different qualities in applicants.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the life sciences, we&#8217;re desperately wishing the shiny-paper journals would go away.</p>
<p>Senior researchers don&#8217;t want to publish there, but feel pressured to help their trainees get jobs by publishing there. </p>
<p>Trainees don&#8217;t want to publish there, but feel pressured to publish there if we want jobs. </p>
<p>A negative feedback loop is exactly what we need to get rid of it, and switch to other possibilities (like wiki-type review online). </p>
<p>Unfortunately, it&#8217;s hard to see how we can break the cycle, unless senior researchers could be induced to stop including themselves on author lists (even when they have contributed next to nothing but their reputations). </p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather see a shift to junior researchers publishing independently, acknowledging but their advisors but not giving them all the credit. Then maybe the pressure to publish in certain journals would lessen if the job market would learn to value different qualities in applicants.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Carpenter</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2008/10/06/the-end-of-peer-review/#comment-1995</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 04:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had an interesting conversation with Charles Lowry (Director at ARL) about this topic.  Sure, senior-level faculty don&#039;t have to publish in top-tier journals.  They already have the credibility that a journal would normally provide.  The benefits of working with an established publisher are lessoned, when you don&#039;t need the benefits of certification, review, or marketing, which are the three key value-add services that publishers provide.  For example, I would likely read Thomas Friedman, if he didn&#039;t publish in the NY Times.  However, tenure review boards still rely heavily on the perceived quality of the journals where a junior faculty has published, possibly as much as they consider the work actually produced.  

If the journal world is slowly eroding, as it seems it is, and  if scholarship moves to publication in repositories of various types, new methods of assessing the quality of content will need to develop, which more closely assess a single work, rather than the packaging (in this current case, the journal).  This will need to happen for two reasons: the first being the assessment and review process, particularly tied to tenure.  The second is tied to the need of scholars to have some shorthand view of what  is critical for them to read and be aware of in their field(s).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had an interesting conversation with Charles Lowry (Director at ARL) about this topic.  Sure, senior-level faculty don&#8217;t have to publish in top-tier journals.  They already have the credibility that a journal would normally provide.  The benefits of working with an established publisher are lessoned, when you don&#8217;t need the benefits of certification, review, or marketing, which are the three key value-add services that publishers provide.  For example, I would likely read Thomas Friedman, if he didn&#8217;t publish in the NY Times.  However, tenure review boards still rely heavily on the perceived quality of the journals where a junior faculty has published, possibly as much as they consider the work actually produced.  </p>
<p>If the journal world is slowly eroding, as it seems it is, and  if scholarship moves to publication in repositories of various types, new methods of assessing the quality of content will need to develop, which more closely assess a single work, rather than the packaging (in this current case, the journal).  This will need to happen for two reasons: the first being the assessment and review process, particularly tied to tenure.  The second is tied to the need of scholars to have some shorthand view of what  is critical for them to read and be aware of in their field(s).</p>
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		<title>By: Peer review is still declining?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peer review is still declining?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] work on the decline of peer review (reported earlier on my blog) is still being discussed: Ellison has painstakingly documented the decline of articles published in top  economics journals [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] work on the decline of peer review (reported earlier on my blog) is still being discussed: Ellison has painstakingly documented the decline of articles published in top  economics journals [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Nielsen &#187; Biweekly links for 10/10/2008</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Nielsen &#187; Biweekly links for 10/10/2008]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The Collapse of Peer Review « The Scholarly Kitchen [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Collapse of Peer Review « The Scholarly Kitchen [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scintilla</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scintilla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ellison has also helpfully self-archived his paper on his homepage (http://econ-www.mit.edu/files/906).  The SSRN and NBER repositories, while not &quot;publications&quot; per se, still charge for access.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellison has also helpfully self-archived his paper on his homepage (<a href="http://econ-www.mit.edu/files/906" rel="nofollow">http://econ-www.mit.edu/files/906</a>).  The SSRN and NBER repositories, while not &#8220;publications&#8221; per se, still charge for access.</p>
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		<title>By: Evidence for Peer Review Collapse &#171; Impressions Scholarcast</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evidence for Peer Review Collapse &#171; Impressions Scholarcast]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 23:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Review&#160;Collapse  Posted on 9 October 2008 by Michael   Philip David in his Scholarly Kitchen post asks the important question ‘Is peer review in decline?”. He cites Glenn Ellison, an economist [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Review&nbsp;Collapse  Posted on 9 October 2008 by Michael   Philip David in his Scholarly Kitchen post asks the important question ‘Is peer review in decline?”. He cites Glenn Ellison, an economist [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Dodenhoff</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rich Dodenhoff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This sounds similar to the experiences of physics and mathematics authors about 15 years ago.   Publication often took more than a year after acceptance.  Much work was considered outdated by the time it appeared in a journal.  Authors circulated their papers on the LANL server, which extended online a long tradition of circulating preprints and provided informal peer review.  Some thought (and hoped) the LANL server would be the end of physics journals.  Instead, it seemed to improve their content because of the useful comments authors received.  However, authors still considered publication in a traditional journal important, even after lengthy delays.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds similar to the experiences of physics and mathematics authors about 15 years ago.   Publication often took more than a year after acceptance.  Much work was considered outdated by the time it appeared in a journal.  Authors circulated their papers on the LANL server, which extended online a long tradition of circulating preprints and provided informal peer review.  Some thought (and hoped) the LANL server would be the end of physics journals.  Instead, it seemed to improve their content because of the useful comments authors received.  However, authors still considered publication in a traditional journal important, even after lengthy delays.</p>
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