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		<title>By: Only 2.5 years&#8230; &#124; e1evation, llc</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Only 2.5 years&#8230; &#124; e1evation, llc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MarshalSandler.com &#187; The All-Digital Newsroom of the Not-So-Distant Future</title>
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		<title>By: Bench Marks &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Link Roundup 01-29-2009</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the real loss, quality journalism. The usually right-on-the-money Scholarly Kitchen responded with this article, which I think is way off base. Blogs don&#8217;t come close to replicating real, quality [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the real loss, quality journalism. The usually right-on-the-money Scholarly Kitchen responded with this article, which I think is way off base. Blogs don&#8217;t come close to replicating real, quality [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Anderson</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 15:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These are all good points, but let&#039;s not forget that the large institutions have had columnists paid for by political entities, lying reporters (exposed by citizen journalists, in some cases), and outrageous conflicts of interest (Fox News, anybody?). Also, a high percentage of mainstream news does already consist of press releases from political parties and corporations. Reporters can be lazy or ambitious, honest or deceitful. Working at the New York Times doesn&#039;t guarantee ambitious honesty.

Bloggers tend to be motivated, so they&#039;re ambitious. They can be busted quite openly through direct links to their offending story. 

I think free speech protects itself -- that is, if someone&#039;s starting to push you around, you point it out, present evidence, etc. 

I still think newspapers have little left to stand upon. Even institutional journalism, abstracted from that particular medium, has some vulnerability as transparency, immediacy, access, domain expertise, and talent stream into the blogosphere.

But, I&#039;ve been wrong before . . .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are all good points, but let&#8217;s not forget that the large institutions have had columnists paid for by political entities, lying reporters (exposed by citizen journalists, in some cases), and outrageous conflicts of interest (Fox News, anybody?). Also, a high percentage of mainstream news does already consist of press releases from political parties and corporations. Reporters can be lazy or ambitious, honest or deceitful. Working at the New York Times doesn&#8217;t guarantee ambitious honesty.</p>
<p>Bloggers tend to be motivated, so they&#8217;re ambitious. They can be busted quite openly through direct links to their offending story. </p>
<p>I think free speech protects itself &#8212; that is, if someone&#8217;s starting to push you around, you point it out, present evidence, etc. </p>
<p>I still think newspapers have little left to stand upon. Even institutional journalism, abstracted from that particular medium, has some vulnerability as transparency, immediacy, access, domain expertise, and talent stream into the blogosphere.</p>
<p>But, I&#8217;ve been wrong before . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Davis</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kent,
You are right that there is a role for citizen journalism in a post-newspaper world, although you forget the most important function of the &lt;a&gt;Fourth Estate&lt;/a&gt;, which is a check on the seemingly unlimited power of government and corporations.

Yes, there is no reason why investigative journalism may not become a great participatory sport.  Amateur journalists, however, have little ability to protect themselves when the story they wish to expose upsets those more powerful than them.

Large newspapers, like the New York Times, have at least some ability to protect themselves (and their staff) when attacked on the legal front (e.g. the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plame_affair&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Valerie Plame affair&lt;/a&gt;)

There is no way that an amateur journalist/blogger would be able to defend him/herself against groups like this.  The only route would be to close shop.

I can imagine an Utopian world of participatory citizen journalism.  I can also imagine a dystopian world where most significant news is written by the government, corporations, and recently laid off journalists-for-hire.

The outgoing administration gave us a foreshadowing of the latter, and frankly, I don&#039;t like it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kent,<br />
You are right that there is a role for citizen journalism in a post-newspaper world, although you forget the most important function of the <a>Fourth Estate</a>, which is a check on the seemingly unlimited power of government and corporations.</p>
<p>Yes, there is no reason why investigative journalism may not become a great participatory sport.  Amateur journalists, however, have little ability to protect themselves when the story they wish to expose upsets those more powerful than them.</p>
<p>Large newspapers, like the New York Times, have at least some ability to protect themselves (and their staff) when attacked on the legal front (e.g. the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plame_affair" rel="nofollow">Valerie Plame affair</a>)</p>
<p>There is no way that an amateur journalist/blogger would be able to defend him/herself against groups like this.  The only route would be to close shop.</p>
<p>I can imagine an Utopian world of participatory citizen journalism.  I can also imagine a dystopian world where most significant news is written by the government, corporations, and recently laid off journalists-for-hire.</p>
<p>The outgoing administration gave us a foreshadowing of the latter, and frankly, I don&#8217;t like it.</p>
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