Comments on: Print Goes Out of Style http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/03/20/print-goes-out-of-style/ What's Hot & What's Cooking in Scholarly Publishing - from the Society for Scholarly Publishing Thu, 16 Feb 2012 03:31:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Earth: fallen off « Shoulderblog http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/03/20/print-goes-out-of-style/#comment-3176 Thu, 14 May 2009 19:50:45 +0000 http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/?p=3379#comment-3176 [...] a fun time to be involved in digital publishing. I was thrilled when the MLA recently announced it no longer privileged print as the default medium for published works. This marks a big cultural shift in scholarship and publishing, and I’m hopeful that [...]

]]> By: Rose Fox http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/03/20/print-goes-out-of-style/#comment-2679 Wed, 25 Mar 2009 04:17:28 +0000 http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/?p=3379#comment-2679 @Josh English, #10: I completely agree that Wikipedia’s changelog feature is as crucial to accurate citation as mentioning whether one is referring to, say, the sixth or seventh edition of the MLA Handbook. For accessing older versions of other sites, there’s the Wayback Machine, though it’s not 100% reliable. At the very least, I feel one should include an access date in a website citation. The obscenely conscientious or paranoid could even take screencaps.

]]> By: Josh English http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/03/20/print-goes-out-of-style/#comment-2674 Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:10:28 +0000 http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/?p=3379#comment-2674 If the mutability of web pages is the problem, then this points to wikipedia as one the strongest internet resources, if not the strongest. Every change on the wiki is tracked and pages have version numbers, so citing the date the page was cited can lead back to the exact copy in the history section.

Why would the MLA feel it necessary to label the media on a citation? I thought the form of the citation was dictated by the source material.

]]> By: Rose Fox http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/03/20/print-goes-out-of-style/#comment-2671 Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:01:30 +0000 http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/?p=3379#comment-2671 I’m surprised no one has mentioned the Digital Object Identifier (DOI), which is exactly what Virginia Bourgeois describes in her comment above: a standard identifier that is shorter than current URLs and that can point to a page even when it changes location. See http://www.doi.org/ for more info.

The real snag with citing online works is that they can and do change without any reference to previous versions. If I write “There are even blue varieties of apple” on a website and then someone corrects me and I change it to “There are no blue apples”, there’s no evidence that I ever said otherwise unless I specifically choose to mention that I made the change. Meanwhile, some well-meaning student may have used my erroneous earlier assertion to bolster an argument in a paper; a fact-checking teacher will come to my site, see that I specifically deny the existence of blue apples, and dock the student points. The immutability of paper offers an easy version control system that slows down the inclusion of new information but guarantees that two people looking at the same edition of the same book will see the same material.

]]> By: Publication trends | Web 2.0 Teacher Educator and Researcher http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/03/20/print-goes-out-of-style/#comment-2659 Mon, 23 Mar 2009 02:21:43 +0000 http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/?p=3379#comment-2659 [...] also cited another blogger, Kent Anderson, who recommended in the latest version of the MLA handbook that print no longer be considered the [...]

]]> By: blog.rightreading.com » Friday roundup http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/03/20/print-goes-out-of-style/#comment-2651 Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:28:00 +0000 http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/?p=3379#comment-2651 [...] MLA style guide gives up on urls, says just describe the source : Is this the end of scholarship as we knew it? [...]

]]> By: Google Kills Need for URLs – MLA Latest « Impressions Scholarcast http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/03/20/print-goes-out-of-style/#comment-2608 Sat, 21 Mar 2009 04:05:53 +0000 http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/?p=3379#comment-2608 [...] As usual Kent Anderson at ‘the scholarly kitchen’ is spotting new trends in publishing in a recent blog post. He leads with the recommendation in the 7th edition of the MLA Handbook for Writers of Research [...]

]]> By: Virginia Bourgeois http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/03/20/print-goes-out-of-style/#comment-2607 Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:27:11 +0000 http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/?p=3379#comment-2607 That relies so much on Google, it’s scary. What if Google goes out of business? Are we assuming that Google (or another great search engine) will be here forever? We need a standard identifier that is shorter than current URLs and that can point to a page even when it changes location – a tall order!

]]> By: Richard Sever http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/03/20/print-goes-out-of-style/#comment-2604 Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:21:10 +0000 http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/?p=3379#comment-2604 “Everyone uses Google” is something we hear a lot. But the reality in the biomedical sciences is that most scientists use PubMed to search the literature (Google Scholar seems to be gaining little traction with them). The next generation of academics may act differently; however, given that PubMed/Medline provides the additional element of filtering/validation and NLM is expanding its archiving efforts in the form of PMC, this may be an area Google and, more importantly, Google-like rankings – do not take over.

]]> By: Rethinking Academic Publishing | Emerging Technologies Consulting http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/03/20/print-goes-out-of-style/#comment-2603 Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:43:09 +0000 http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/?p=3379#comment-2603 [...] Print Goes out of Style–discusses the MLA’s decision to not privilege print in it’s citation guide [...]

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