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	<title>Comments on: Kindle Failings Serve as Early Warning</title>
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		<title>By: David Crotty</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/04/23/kindle-failings-serves-as-early-warning/#comment-3652</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Crotty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marco, you&#039;ve hit on one of the really big issues here--even Amazon seems to have no idea what their own policies are.  In some ways, it doesn&#039;t matter, as under the terms of service, they can change those policies at any point. And that&#039;s why locked-down devices like this are a bad purchase--you never know exactly what you&#039;re buying.  What may seem like a reasonable deal today could turn into a rip-off tomorrow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marco, you&#8217;ve hit on one of the really big issues here&#8211;even Amazon seems to have no idea what their own policies are.  In some ways, it doesn&#8217;t matter, as under the terms of service, they can change those policies at any point. And that&#8217;s why locked-down devices like this are a bad purchase&#8211;you never know exactly what you&#8217;re buying.  What may seem like a reasonable deal today could turn into a rip-off tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: Marco Gustafsson</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/04/23/kindle-failings-serves-as-early-warning/#comment-3651</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marco Gustafsson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Library Journal wrote in Feb 2008 that an Amazon spokesperson said &quot;sharing a device (i.e. Kindle) loaded with content with a wide group of people would not be in line with the terms of use.&quot; But according to Howe Library (Hanover) representative Amazon assured that it was legal to circulate content to patrons and told that a purchased title can be loaded simultaneously onto a maximum of 6 Kindles of the same account. So Kindle&#039;s application in library depends on who you ask and when.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Library Journal wrote in Feb 2008 that an Amazon spokesperson said &#8220;sharing a device (i.e. Kindle) loaded with content with a wide group of people would not be in line with the terms of use.&#8221; But according to Howe Library (Hanover) representative Amazon assured that it was legal to circulate content to patrons and told that a purchased title can be loaded simultaneously onto a maximum of 6 Kindles of the same account. So Kindle&#8217;s application in library depends on who you ask and when.</p>
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		<title>By: The Freedom of Not Owning Books &#171; The Scholarly Kitchen</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/04/23/kindle-failings-serves-as-early-warning/#comment-3639</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Freedom of Not Owning Books &#171; The Scholarly Kitchen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] about digital rights management (DRM) and the limitations of sharing or keeping books purchased through the Kindle hit on a certain way of realizing or feeling the value of textual material &#8212; basically, [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] about digital rights management (DRM) and the limitations of sharing or keeping books purchased through the Kindle hit on a certain way of realizing or feeling the value of textual material &#8212; basically, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: More Kindle Limitations Discovered &#171; The Scholarly Kitchen</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/04/23/kindle-failings-serves-as-early-warning/#comment-3627</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[More Kindle Limitations Discovered &#171; The Scholarly Kitchen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] As noted earlier, DRM does nothing to prevent piracy. It&#8217;s in place on the Kindle to provide proprietary lock-in for Amazon and a little hand-holding comfort for nervous publishers.  It serves to annoy and alienate potential paying customers. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As noted earlier, DRM does nothing to prevent piracy. It&#8217;s in place on the Kindle to provide proprietary lock-in for Amazon and a little hand-holding comfort for nervous publishers.  It serves to annoy and alienate potential paying customers. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bench Marks &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Link Roundup 06-05-2009</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bench Marks &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Link Roundup 06-05-2009]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 18:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] up with more numbers.  Landmark study: DRM truly does make pirates out of us all A few weeks back, I wrote about the Kindle&#8217;s DRM: By providing a product that suffers the limitations of lock-in and prevents users from doing the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] up with more numbers.  Landmark study: DRM truly does make pirates out of us all A few weeks back, I wrote about the Kindle&#8217;s DRM: By providing a product that suffers the limitations of lock-in and prevents users from doing the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Crotty</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/04/23/kindle-failings-serves-as-early-warning/#comment-3088</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Crotty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 02:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But Kent, your analogy fails because you&#039;re talking about a technology going obsolete.  That&#039;s very different from a technology that&#039;s still in use being taken away from you.  If you no longer choose to use your cd&#039;s, that&#039;s your decision.  But if you want, you can always access the music on them that you purchased.  Did your old DVD discs stop working when Blu-Ray came out?  Even if the technology is obsolete, your previous cd player still works.  And importantly, if you buy a cd player from another company, the cd&#039;s you already own will work on it.  

Not so with the Kindle.  At any point they can completely change the terms of your license and stop you from using the books you&#039;ve purchased.  And it has nothing to do with a technology being supplanted.  If you decide to buy an e-book reader from Sony, essentially the same technology as the Kindle, you have to re-buy all your Kindle books.  That&#039;s very different from replacing an lp with an arguably superior cd. You&#039;re replacing apples with apples here, because you&#039;ve bought into a file format that will only work with one company&#039;s product.

The Kindle book purchase is inexorably tied to that device.  It means that if you want to continue reading that book, you need to always buy devices from Amazon, even if a superior device comes out from another company.  The gist of my column is that what is really needed is an open standard e-book format that can be licensed by anyone.  This allows portability and removes the consumer-unfriendly lock-in caused by the monopoly on the file format.

As you note, if the Kindle fails to catch on in the market and Amazon pulls the plug, you&#039;re hosed.  No more books for you. Unlike the situation with your cd&#039;s and lp&#039;s, which you own, and will always own, and can always access.  Also, since there&#039;s no DRM on them, you&#039;re free to rip either to your iPod.  If you try that with your Kindle books, you&#039;re breaking the law.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Kent, your analogy fails because you&#8217;re talking about a technology going obsolete.  That&#8217;s very different from a technology that&#8217;s still in use being taken away from you.  If you no longer choose to use your cd&#8217;s, that&#8217;s your decision.  But if you want, you can always access the music on them that you purchased.  Did your old DVD discs stop working when Blu-Ray came out?  Even if the technology is obsolete, your previous cd player still works.  And importantly, if you buy a cd player from another company, the cd&#8217;s you already own will work on it.  </p>
<p>Not so with the Kindle.  At any point they can completely change the terms of your license and stop you from using the books you&#8217;ve purchased.  And it has nothing to do with a technology being supplanted.  If you decide to buy an e-book reader from Sony, essentially the same technology as the Kindle, you have to re-buy all your Kindle books.  That&#8217;s very different from replacing an lp with an arguably superior cd. You&#8217;re replacing apples with apples here, because you&#8217;ve bought into a file format that will only work with one company&#8217;s product.</p>
<p>The Kindle book purchase is inexorably tied to that device.  It means that if you want to continue reading that book, you need to always buy devices from Amazon, even if a superior device comes out from another company.  The gist of my column is that what is really needed is an open standard e-book format that can be licensed by anyone.  This allows portability and removes the consumer-unfriendly lock-in caused by the monopoly on the file format.</p>
<p>As you note, if the Kindle fails to catch on in the market and Amazon pulls the plug, you&#8217;re hosed.  No more books for you. Unlike the situation with your cd&#8217;s and lp&#8217;s, which you own, and will always own, and can always access.  Also, since there&#8217;s no DRM on them, you&#8217;re free to rip either to your iPod.  If you try that with your Kindle books, you&#8217;re breaking the law.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Anderson</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/04/23/kindle-failings-serves-as-early-warning/#comment-3085</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kent Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 00:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was afraid my example would lead to conflation with the music industry. My point was about devices being supplanted. I have records that I can no longer play (the RCA jacks from my old turntable have nowhere to go). We have no CD player in our house anymore, so our CDs are in a box. Effectively, two media have been removed from viable daily life by technology churn. If Amazon stops supporting the Kindle, it will likely be due to the technology failing (ala betamax) or being supplanted (DVD), not because Amazon has overlord predilections. 

Ah, technology. You are a harsh mistress!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was afraid my example would lead to conflation with the music industry. My point was about devices being supplanted. I have records that I can no longer play (the RCA jacks from my old turntable have nowhere to go). We have no CD player in our house anymore, so our CDs are in a box. Effectively, two media have been removed from viable daily life by technology churn. If Amazon stops supporting the Kindle, it will likely be due to the technology failing (ala betamax) or being supplanted (DVD), not because Amazon has overlord predilections. </p>
<p>Ah, technology. You are a harsh mistress!</p>
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		<title>By: David Crotty</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/04/23/kindle-failings-serves-as-early-warning/#comment-3083</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Crotty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 20:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The music analogy is a flawed one here.  If you bought a record or a cd, you can always continue to play that cd.  The company that produced it can not decide to turn off your access to the purchased music on a whim.  You are not dependent on the music company maintaining their DRM servers for access to the cd or record&#039;s contents.  If you choose to, you can buy a new cd player or a new turntable by a company different than the one who made your current player.  The same goes for most of the other products you mention.  

Second, the music industry is one of the most hated groups on earth.  Do publishers really want to generate the same level of resentment from their customers?  Should we start suing our best customers as well?

The shoplifting comparison is also something we really shouldn&#039;t reinforce.  Theft and copyright infringement are very different crimes with different penalties.  Check the penalty for shoplifting a cd versus those for putting that same cd up on a filesharing site.  And breaking DRM often has nothing to do with getting free copies of media.  Sometimes it&#039;s done for format or timeshifting, something the Supreme Court has ruled as being legal.  Am I a &quot;shoplifter&quot; if I buy a cd, then I want to rip it to my hard drive to put it on my iPod?  There are cd&#039;s out there with DRM that prevent this.

You can choose to lay blame wherever you&#039;d like, there&#039;s plenty to go around.  But if we&#039;re smart, we&#039;ll learn from an industry that has created an entire generation who think music is something you get for free.  One way to try to avoid that is to create a product that can compete with &quot;free&quot;, something superior and more useable that&#039;s not crippled and flawed.  Something that doesn&#039;t thwart the paying user and make the DRM-broken version more valuable and attractive than the purchased one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The music analogy is a flawed one here.  If you bought a record or a cd, you can always continue to play that cd.  The company that produced it can not decide to turn off your access to the purchased music on a whim.  You are not dependent on the music company maintaining their DRM servers for access to the cd or record&#8217;s contents.  If you choose to, you can buy a new cd player or a new turntable by a company different than the one who made your current player.  The same goes for most of the other products you mention.  </p>
<p>Second, the music industry is one of the most hated groups on earth.  Do publishers really want to generate the same level of resentment from their customers?  Should we start suing our best customers as well?</p>
<p>The shoplifting comparison is also something we really shouldn&#8217;t reinforce.  Theft and copyright infringement are very different crimes with different penalties.  Check the penalty for shoplifting a cd versus those for putting that same cd up on a filesharing site.  And breaking DRM often has nothing to do with getting free copies of media.  Sometimes it&#8217;s done for format or timeshifting, something the Supreme Court has ruled as being legal.  Am I a &#8220;shoplifter&#8221; if I buy a cd, then I want to rip it to my hard drive to put it on my iPod?  There are cd&#8217;s out there with DRM that prevent this.</p>
<p>You can choose to lay blame wherever you&#8217;d like, there&#8217;s plenty to go around.  But if we&#8217;re smart, we&#8217;ll learn from an industry that has created an entire generation who think music is something you get for free.  One way to try to avoid that is to create a product that can compete with &#8220;free&#8221;, something superior and more useable that&#8217;s not crippled and flawed.  Something that doesn&#8217;t thwart the paying user and make the DRM-broken version more valuable and attractive than the purchased one.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Anderson</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/04/23/kindle-failings-serves-as-early-warning/#comment-3082</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kent Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 19:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is this really any different than the concept covered in &quot;Men in Black,&quot; when Tommy Lee Jones&#039; character complains about a new music format and how many times he&#039;s had to purchase &quot;The White Album&quot;? To point out a flaw inherent to all devices as particular to the Kindle isn&#039;t fair. Record players, computers, VCRs, razors, mechanical pencils, televisions -- I&#039;ve had a device in each category go unsupported or become antiquated or get trumped by something better.

As for libraries, it would be interesting to consider a digital lending library, which could actually be accomplished via the Kindle. I&#039;d love to see if my library had a digital copy of a book available, check it out wirelessly, and know the due date when it would vanish from my device if I didn&#039;t renew it. I think instead of a complaint, this could actually be a really nifty idea. Amazon, are you listening?

Finally, blaming store owners for creating shoplifters strikes me as unfair, as well. Does money create too much lock-in for these people? You can only play innocent for so long. A child impulsively pocketing a caramel at the grocery store is innocent. A user breaking DRM is something else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this really any different than the concept covered in &#8220;Men in Black,&#8221; when Tommy Lee Jones&#8217; character complains about a new music format and how many times he&#8217;s had to purchase &#8220;The White Album&#8221;? To point out a flaw inherent to all devices as particular to the Kindle isn&#8217;t fair. Record players, computers, VCRs, razors, mechanical pencils, televisions &#8212; I&#8217;ve had a device in each category go unsupported or become antiquated or get trumped by something better.</p>
<p>As for libraries, it would be interesting to consider a digital lending library, which could actually be accomplished via the Kindle. I&#8217;d love to see if my library had a digital copy of a book available, check it out wirelessly, and know the due date when it would vanish from my device if I didn&#8217;t renew it. I think instead of a complaint, this could actually be a really nifty idea. Amazon, are you listening?</p>
<p>Finally, blaming store owners for creating shoplifters strikes me as unfair, as well. Does money create too much lock-in for these people? You can only play innocent for so long. A child impulsively pocketing a caramel at the grocery store is innocent. A user breaking DRM is something else.</p>
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		<title>By: Amazon Acquires Stanza &#171; The Scholarly Kitchen</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/04/23/kindle-failings-serves-as-early-warning/#comment-2985</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amazon Acquires Stanza &#171; The Scholarly Kitchen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] willing and able to move quickly to control e-reading experiences and the e-book storefront. While the Kindle continues to draw attention, Amazon&#8217;s broader strategy is decoupled from their device. It&#8217;s about controlling the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] willing and able to move quickly to control e-reading experiences and the e-book storefront. While the Kindle continues to draw attention, Amazon&#8217;s broader strategy is decoupled from their device. It&#8217;s about controlling the [...]</p>
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