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		<title>By: &#187; A slant on academic publishing in the Twitter era&#8230; Dramatech Space</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; A slant on academic publishing in the Twitter era&#8230; Dramatech Space</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 03:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Open Access Voted Down at Maryland  (scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Consumer Price Index and the Argument for OA &#171; The Scholarly Kitchen</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Consumer Price Index and the Argument for OA &#171; The Scholarly Kitchen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 10:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] journal price inflation comparison routinely shows up in Open Access resolutions, such as the one recently voted down by faculty at the University of Maryland.  The comparison is more than just a simple statement of fact &#8212; it forms the basis of an [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] journal price inflation comparison routinely shows up in Open Access resolutions, such as the one recently voted down by faculty at the University of Maryland.  The comparison is more than just a simple statement of fact &#8212; it forms the basis of an [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Researching Social Media &#171; The Scholarly Kitchen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Researching Social Media &#171; The Scholarly Kitchen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 10:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (The University of Maryland seems a busy place these digital days, having just voted down an open access requirement for faculty.) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Robert Richards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 04:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Davis:

I agree with Dr. Lee that ARL libraries could lower their APCs to the extent that grant funds cover APCs.  Where grants cover publication costs,  those costs could be shifted permanently to foundations or a governmental entity.  Given the statist philosophy of the current U.S. federal executive, the present U.S. federal government might welcome taking on those a substantial portion of these costs.  Do you know of a source of data that permits a reliable estimate of the percentage of APCs that could be funded by grants at each ARL institution? 

Robert Richards

Robert C. Richards, Jr., J.D.*, M.S.L.I.S., M.A.
Law Librarian &amp; Legal Information Consultant
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Davis:</p>
<p>I agree with Dr. Lee that ARL libraries could lower their APCs to the extent that grant funds cover APCs.  Where grants cover publication costs,  those costs could be shifted permanently to foundations or a governmental entity.  Given the statist philosophy of the current U.S. federal executive, the present U.S. federal government might welcome taking on those a substantial portion of these costs.  Do you know of a source of data that permits a reliable estimate of the percentage of APCs that could be funded by grants at each ARL institution? </p>
<p>Robert Richards</p>
<p>Robert C. Richards, Jr., J.D.*, M.S.L.I.S., M.A.<br />
Law Librarian &amp; Legal Information Consultant<br />
Philadelphia, PA<br />
<a href="mailto:richards1000@comcast.net">richards1000@comcast.net</a></p>
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		<title>By: Stevan Harnad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stevan Harnad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 09:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The growing number of self-archiving mandates by universities and funders are not primarily &quot;moral&quot; or altruistic mandates: They are primarily self-interest mandates.

It is in the interest of the careers (employment, salary, promotion, tenure, funding, prizes, prestige) of scholars and scientists to maximize the usage and impact of their research. It is also in the interests of their institutions, and of the tax-paying public that funds their research, that the research they fund is used, applied and built upon as widely as possible.

Moreover, most peer-reviewed research is not health-related, and it is written for fellow-specialists, hence of no direct interest to the reading public. It is research progress that benefits the tax-paying public.

(I am not defending self-interest over morality, by the way; just pointing out -- for those for whom moral motives alone are deterrents, or signs of weakness -- that there&#039;s something in it for the self-archivers, and the self-archiving mandators.)

I agree, however, that self-archiving mandates are not library money-savers, nor intended to be. Mixing up the journal-affordability problem with the research accessibility problem continues to be a big mistake misunderstanding, and a major deterrent to Open Access progress, even though the affordability problem helped to draw attention to the accessibility problem in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The growing number of self-archiving mandates by universities and funders are not primarily &#8220;moral&#8221; or altruistic mandates: They are primarily self-interest mandates.</p>
<p>It is in the interest of the careers (employment, salary, promotion, tenure, funding, prizes, prestige) of scholars and scientists to maximize the usage and impact of their research. It is also in the interests of their institutions, and of the tax-paying public that funds their research, that the research they fund is used, applied and built upon as widely as possible.</p>
<p>Moreover, most peer-reviewed research is not health-related, and it is written for fellow-specialists, hence of no direct interest to the reading public. It is research progress that benefits the tax-paying public.</p>
<p>(I am not defending self-interest over morality, by the way; just pointing out &#8212; for those for whom moral motives alone are deterrents, or signs of weakness &#8212; that there&#8217;s something in it for the self-archivers, and the self-archiving mandators.)</p>
<p>I agree, however, that self-archiving mandates are not library money-savers, nor intended to be. Mixing up the journal-affordability problem with the research accessibility problem continues to be a big mistake misunderstanding, and a major deterrent to Open Access progress, even though the affordability problem helped to draw attention to the accessibility problem in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philip Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 00:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting remark.  If publications are viewed entirely as serving the promotion and tenure process, then authors (and their institutions) are the only ones who benefit from publishing.

Yet one would have to ignore publication as an act of disseminating research findings to readers (most of whom are not authors and thus do not cite), as well as the benefit of this transfer of knowledge to industry and society as a whole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting remark.  If publications are viewed entirely as serving the promotion and tenure process, then authors (and their institutions) are the only ones who benefit from publishing.</p>
<p>Yet one would have to ignore publication as an act of disseminating research findings to readers (most of whom are not authors and thus do not cite), as well as the benefit of this transfer of knowledge to industry and society as a whole.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil:
I am not sure I agree with your classification of moral vs economic arguments.  After all, the modal cite count for most academic articles is approaching 0.  Thus, the economic benefits of publication flow to those who produce the research, not those who consume it (e.g., positive tenure reviews, promotion, and merit increases).  

Perhaps a legitimate economic argument could be made for letting those who benefit the most pay the most?  

Of course, this is not based on any analysis of the data, just an observation about the difference between a moral and an economic justification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil:<br />
I am not sure I agree with your classification of moral vs economic arguments.  After all, the modal cite count for most academic articles is approaching 0.  Thus, the economic benefits of publication flow to those who produce the research, not those who consume it (e.g., positive tenure reviews, promotion, and merit increases).  </p>
<p>Perhaps a legitimate economic argument could be made for letting those who benefit the most pay the most?  </p>
<p>Of course, this is not based on any analysis of the data, just an observation about the difference between a moral and an economic justification.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philip Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I also have to question Phil’s statement that all research institutions would pay more under an author-pays model.&lt;/i&gt;

The &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://ecommons.library.cornell.edu/handle/1813/236&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;analysis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; was limited to the 113 member institutions of the Association of Research Libraries.  The assumptions of the model can be changed in the spreadsheet and I encourage you to play with the numbers and see what you discover.

In the United States and Canada, the vast majority of published articles are authored by researchers at these 113 institutions.  These institutions are the &lt;i&gt;net producers&lt;/i&gt; of published articles.  The rest of the 3,000 institutions of higher learning are &lt;i&gt;net consumers&lt;/i&gt; of published articles.

Under a producer-pays model, net producers will pay the full freight of the publishing system, while the net consumers will enjoy the benefits.  It doesn&#039;t take a rocket scientist (or an accountant) to figure this out.

One might argue whether this is &quot;fair&quot; or not.  At this point, the argument stops concerning itself with economics and starts becoming moral and political in nature.

As I wrote, I have no problem with moral arguments.  I do have a problem with moral arguments disguised in false economic clothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I also have to question Phil’s statement that all research institutions would pay more under an author-pays model.</i></p>
<p>The <strong><a href="http://ecommons.library.cornell.edu/handle/1813/236" rel="nofollow">analysis</a></strong> was limited to the 113 member institutions of the Association of Research Libraries.  The assumptions of the model can be changed in the spreadsheet and I encourage you to play with the numbers and see what you discover.</p>
<p>In the United States and Canada, the vast majority of published articles are authored by researchers at these 113 institutions.  These institutions are the <i>net producers</i> of published articles.  The rest of the 3,000 institutions of higher learning are <i>net consumers</i> of published articles.</p>
<p>Under a producer-pays model, net producers will pay the full freight of the publishing system, while the net consumers will enjoy the benefits.  It doesn&#8217;t take a rocket scientist (or an accountant) to figure this out.</p>
<p>One might argue whether this is &#8220;fair&#8221; or not.  At this point, the argument stops concerning itself with economics and starts becoming moral and political in nature.</p>
<p>As I wrote, I have no problem with moral arguments.  I do have a problem with moral arguments disguised in false economic clothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is where the resolution and the discussion got confused (based on the report). If an institution mandated publishing in open access journals, then there is reason to be concerned about the different funding models across disciplines. Or at least until open access humanities journals can find a reliable funding model that scales. But that isn&#039;t what the resolution said, so the reported  &quot;rift&quot; seems to come from a misunderstanding.

But I also have to question Phil&#039;s statement that all research institutions would pay more under an author-pays model. That assumes that the institution pays all fees. But as David points out, the reported &quot;rift&quot; arises because the research funding agencies in the life sciences are also willing to fund publication costs. Other funders may as well. I also wonder if this is true of all research universities or only those with a large research staff and low faculty to student ratios. That doesn&#039;t describe all that many universities. But I haven&#039;t repeated his study at such places.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is where the resolution and the discussion got confused (based on the report). If an institution mandated publishing in open access journals, then there is reason to be concerned about the different funding models across disciplines. Or at least until open access humanities journals can find a reliable funding model that scales. But that isn&#8217;t what the resolution said, so the reported  &#8220;rift&#8221; seems to come from a misunderstanding.</p>
<p>But I also have to question Phil&#8217;s statement that all research institutions would pay more under an author-pays model. That assumes that the institution pays all fees. But as David points out, the reported &#8220;rift&#8221; arises because the research funding agencies in the life sciences are also willing to fund publication costs. Other funders may as well. I also wonder if this is true of all research universities or only those with a large research staff and low faculty to student ratios. That doesn&#8217;t describe all that many universities. But I haven&#8217;t repeated his study at such places.</p>
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		<title>By: David Crotty</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Crotty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s particularly interesting here, from the Diamondback article, is that it appears the faculty were divided between science professors and humanities professors:

&quot;Throughout the debate, science professors faced off against humanities professors - a rift caused by the vast differences between scientific journals and humanities journals.&quot;

Are the scientists, with their vaster funding resources, pushing the humanities faculties into an untenable position, where their own journals will be forced to go under?  It&#039;s one thing to expect the Wellcome Trust or the Rockefeller Foundation to add to grants to pick up the costs of author-pays models, but where would that money come from for a comparative literature professor or as cited in the article, a professor in feminist studies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s particularly interesting here, from the Diamondback article, is that it appears the faculty were divided between science professors and humanities professors:</p>
<p>&#8220;Throughout the debate, science professors faced off against humanities professors &#8211; a rift caused by the vast differences between scientific journals and humanities journals.&#8221;</p>
<p>Are the scientists, with their vaster funding resources, pushing the humanities faculties into an untenable position, where their own journals will be forced to go under?  It&#8217;s one thing to expect the Wellcome Trust or the Rockefeller Foundation to add to grants to pick up the costs of author-pays models, but where would that money come from for a comparative literature professor or as cited in the article, a professor in feminist studies?</p>
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