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		<title>By: Don&#8217;t Look Back &#8212; Do Scientists Squelch Citations to Justify Claims of Novelty? &#171; The Scholarly Kitchen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don&#8217;t Look Back &#8212; Do Scientists Squelch Citations to Justify Claims of Novelty? &#171; The Scholarly Kitchen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 09:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] A study published recently in the Annals of Internal Medicine sought to probe whether published randomized controlled trials (RCTs) cited relevant prior work. After all, if we all stand on the shoulders of giants, we should at least check our footing before attempting another leap. This is especially important in medical research, where patients are put at risk and where there has been documented evidence of citation invention and diversion. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A study published recently in the Annals of Internal Medicine sought to probe whether published randomized controlled trials (RCTs) cited relevant prior work. After all, if we all stand on the shoulders of giants, we should at least check our footing before attempting another leap. This is especially important in medical research, where patients are put at risk and where there has been documented evidence of citation invention and diversion. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Citation Distortions &#62; Unfounded Authority &#124; Ahabloging.com</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Citation Distortions &#62; Unfounded Authority &#124; Ahabloging.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 17:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ghostwriters &#38; Ghostresearchers: Supernatural Forces in Scholarship &#171; The Scholarly Kitchen</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/07/30/diversion-invention-and-socialized-medicine/#comment-4189</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ghostwriters &#38; Ghostresearchers: Supernatural Forces in Scholarship &#171; The Scholarly Kitchen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] you add this to the citation diversion and invention that can occur in social citation (as opposed to scholarly citation), the specter of a belief system rises up even [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you add this to the citation diversion and invention that can occur in social citation (as opposed to scholarly citation), the specter of a belief system rises up even [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Anderson</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/07/30/diversion-invention-and-socialized-medicine/#comment-4086</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kent Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think a difference between now and the 1970s is the social media infrastructure we now have at our fingertips. Google is basically a form of social citation writ large and aimed at Web sites. It works pretty well. Could the same thing be done for scientific citations? I know people who have taken stabs at it, but without the sort of qualitative overlay it needs to really resonate/shake things up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a difference between now and the 1970s is the social media infrastructure we now have at our fingertips. Google is basically a form of social citation writ large and aimed at Web sites. It works pretty well. Could the same thing be done for scientific citations? I know people who have taken stabs at it, but without the sort of qualitative overlay it needs to really resonate/shake things up.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip Davis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fascinating read and analysis, Kent!

We seem, however, to be returning to the early 1970s where proposals for classifying the semantic intent of the citation were proposed and then abandoned in the realization of the cognitive work that would need to go into it, not to mention the fact that many citations are ambiguous, have multiple meanings and generally resist classification.

The main issue appears to be an attempt to create an empirical and quantitative system that resists subjective bias and intentional gaming.

Can this really be done?  And more importantly, does it result in a better evaluative tool for scientists?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating read and analysis, Kent!</p>
<p>We seem, however, to be returning to the early 1970s where proposals for classifying the semantic intent of the citation were proposed and then abandoned in the realization of the cognitive work that would need to go into it, not to mention the fact that many citations are ambiguous, have multiple meanings and generally resist classification.</p>
<p>The main issue appears to be an attempt to create an empirical and quantitative system that resists subjective bias and intentional gaming.</p>
<p>Can this really be done?  And more importantly, does it result in a better evaluative tool for scientists?</p>
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		<title>By: Megan Prikhodko</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/07/30/diversion-invention-and-socialized-medicine/#comment-4083</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Megan Prikhodko]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello Kent,
I really enjoyed this post. I was just talking to a manager of a small journal the other day regarding how few journals utilize a citation parser and essentially fail to check references. 

I agree that the problem seems to be how a person could go about ranking the merit of a citation in the context of another article.  You gave an example where the four most cited articles came to vastly different conclusions than the un-cited articles on the same topic.  Although in this scenario it is easy to see the discrepancies, I&#039;m sure that we will run into problems down the road when the differences aren&#039;t so obvious and the line isn’t easily drawn.

I like your idea of creating some kind of program to mark citations as “correct, diversionary, or invented.”  It seems to be a very close cousin of Wikipedia’s method of notifying users when information is cited and sources are listed. The question is, how could you do this across all social sites and who would do it?

I think it’s really the responsibility of authors, reviewers, and editors to check references before publishing an article.  Further, I think it’s the individual consumer’s responsibility to never assume the validity of sources on non-reviewed, social forums.  It calls back to the old saying “Don’t believe everything you hear on TV.”  

Even as I write this I realize the ideal nature of my suggestion and how relying on individuals to do the right thing has, thus far, left us swimming in specious facts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Kent,<br />
I really enjoyed this post. I was just talking to a manager of a small journal the other day regarding how few journals utilize a citation parser and essentially fail to check references. </p>
<p>I agree that the problem seems to be how a person could go about ranking the merit of a citation in the context of another article.  You gave an example where the four most cited articles came to vastly different conclusions than the un-cited articles on the same topic.  Although in this scenario it is easy to see the discrepancies, I&#8217;m sure that we will run into problems down the road when the differences aren&#8217;t so obvious and the line isn’t easily drawn.</p>
<p>I like your idea of creating some kind of program to mark citations as “correct, diversionary, or invented.”  It seems to be a very close cousin of Wikipedia’s method of notifying users when information is cited and sources are listed. The question is, how could you do this across all social sites and who would do it?</p>
<p>I think it’s really the responsibility of authors, reviewers, and editors to check references before publishing an article.  Further, I think it’s the individual consumer’s responsibility to never assume the validity of sources on non-reviewed, social forums.  It calls back to the old saying “Don’t believe everything you hear on TV.”  </p>
<p>Even as I write this I realize the ideal nature of my suggestion and how relying on individuals to do the right thing has, thus far, left us swimming in specious facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Anderson</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/07/30/diversion-invention-and-socialized-medicine/#comment-4082</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kent Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had the same scalability concern until I realized that, at least in this case, 90+% of citations went to four papers and that papers that disagreed jumped out in contrast. With a map generated using social media rules, you might be able to find the source of a belief system, evaluate its fundamentals, and go from there. There are plenty of people evaluating the primary literature. What if evaluating citations became part of the system in some way, tied to these surveillance publications or to blogs or DOIs? What if you could flag a citation as &quot;correct, diversionary, or invented&quot;? What if you could see papers that were valid but uncited? I think it could work, but it will take a finer mind than mine to see how to do it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the same scalability concern until I realized that, at least in this case, 90+% of citations went to four papers and that papers that disagreed jumped out in contrast. With a map generated using social media rules, you might be able to find the source of a belief system, evaluate its fundamentals, and go from there. There are plenty of people evaluating the primary literature. What if evaluating citations became part of the system in some way, tied to these surveillance publications or to blogs or DOIs? What if you could flag a citation as &#8220;correct, diversionary, or invented&#8221;? What if you could see papers that were valid but uncited? I think it could work, but it will take a finer mind than mine to see how to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Sever</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/07/30/diversion-invention-and-socialized-medicine/#comment-4081</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Sever]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The goal would thus be a more complex network in which the edges (links/citations) had values (which could even be negative I presume).

I&#039;m struggling on the issue of scalability though. Aren&#039;t we essentially talking about a Faculty of 1000 for links - in which human intervention is needed to assess the merits of citations? And wouldn&#039;t this introduce subjectivity throughout?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The goal would thus be a more complex network in which the edges (links/citations) had values (which could even be negative I presume).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m struggling on the issue of scalability though. Aren&#8217;t we essentially talking about a Faculty of 1000 for links &#8211; in which human intervention is needed to assess the merits of citations? And wouldn&#8217;t this introduce subjectivity throughout?</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Anderson</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/07/30/diversion-invention-and-socialized-medicine/#comment-4080</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kent Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t entirely thought it through, but I was viewing it as a possible measurement tactic superior to raw citation counts. The methods Greenberg outlines seem scalable. Why not make a business out of it, and trump ISI? Then, we could not only have citation counts, but trace citations to key articles, evaluate those articles, and give citations a diversion, invention, or social pressure measure (basically, a BS measure). Wouldn&#039;t it be interesting to see how much of a popular idea is BS?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t entirely thought it through, but I was viewing it as a possible measurement tactic superior to raw citation counts. The methods Greenberg outlines seem scalable. Why not make a business out of it, and trump ISI? Then, we could not only have citation counts, but trace citations to key articles, evaluate those articles, and give citations a diversion, invention, or social pressure measure (basically, a BS measure). Wouldn&#8217;t it be interesting to see how much of a popular idea is BS?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Sever</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Sever]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fascinating post Kent. Many scientists are very conscious of the phenomenon, but they are unclear how the change in culture necessary to prevent this can be effected. 

You suggest deploying social networks to eliminate this. But given the self-organizing nature of these and the preferential attachment (rich-get-richer) typically observed among nodes, isn&#039;t there a danger the problem would be exacerbated? (Or do you envisage a publisher&#039;s &#039;invisible hand&#039; that  validates, guides and prunes links?)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating post Kent. Many scientists are very conscious of the phenomenon, but they are unclear how the change in culture necessary to prevent this can be effected. </p>
<p>You suggest deploying social networks to eliminate this. But given the self-organizing nature of these and the preferential attachment (rich-get-richer) typically observed among nodes, isn&#8217;t there a danger the problem would be exacerbated? (Or do you envisage a publisher&#8217;s &#8216;invisible hand&#8217; that  validates, guides and prunes links?)</p>
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