Comments on: Scientists Still Not Joining Social Networks http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/10/19/scientists-still-not-joining-social-networks/ What's Hot & What's Cooking in Scholarly Publishing - from the Society for Scholarly Publishing Thu, 02 Sep 2010 11:43:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: The RIN Report on Researchers and Web 2.0: If You Build It . . . Well, You Know the Rest « The Scholarly Kitchen http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/10/19/scientists-still-not-joining-social-networks/#comment-16809 The RIN Report on Researchers and Web 2.0: If You Build It . . . Well, You Know the Rest « The Scholarly Kitchen Thu, 15 Jul 2010 09:25:35 +0000 http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/?p=6517#comment-16809 [...] in-line with everything we’ve seen for the last few years (see previous columns here, here, here, and here).  Predictions that new online technologies will revolutionize the way scientists and [...] [...] in-line with everything we’ve seen for the last few years (see previous columns here, here, here, and here).  Predictions that new online technologies will revolutionize the way scientists and [...]

]]> By: The Fear and Exhilaration of Breaking New Ground « Social Works http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/10/19/scientists-still-not-joining-social-networks/#comment-5502 The Fear and Exhilaration of Breaking New Ground « Social Works Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:04:58 +0000 http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/?p=6517#comment-5502 [...] Most networks seem to make two assumptions that doom them to failure: 1) that networking and communication is a central part of a scientist’s day, and 2) that scientists are willing to openly communicate on a wide scale with their communities. The first is a failure of perspective, those building and promoting social networks are “true-believers“, people whose lives revolve around social networking. While communication of results, networking and building collaboration are important for scientists, they’re somewhat peripheral compared to doing actual research.  - via Scientists Still Not Joining Social Networks « The Scholarly Kitchen [...] [...] Most networks seem to make two assumptions that doom them to failure: 1) that networking and communication is a central part of a scientist’s day, and 2) that scientists are willing to openly communicate on a wide scale with their communities. The first is a failure of perspective, those building and promoting social networks are “true-believers“, people whose lives revolve around social networking. While communication of results, networking and building collaboration are important for scientists, they’re somewhat peripheral compared to doing actual research.  – via Scientists Still Not Joining Social Networks « The Scholarly Kitchen [...]

]]> By: Gavin Bell http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/10/19/scientists-still-not-joining-social-networks/#comment-5493 Gavin Bell Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:16:14 +0000 http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/?p=6517#comment-5493 The small scale, semi private groupings that scientists operate within have a strong effect on their willingness to participate in social networks. The stronger the competition and the closer the potential of money, the less likely they are to participate in public. I do think that there is scope for using social networks within science, but perhaps some of the initial attempts were a but naive. Neither science, nor the potential for the social web will disappear, more likely is that those that can more openly participate (arXiv) will show those less willing the benefits and over a 5-10 year span more people will participate. RSS took seven years to gain widespread adoption. Social network tools will take just as long to become widely adopted, even with Facebook at 200 million plus current users. Semi-private networks are a definite area where this will become more popular, but they are not that well supported at the minute. Not speaking for Nature. The small scale, semi private groupings that scientists operate within have a strong effect on their willingness to participate in social networks. The stronger the competition and the closer the potential of money, the less likely they are to participate in public.

I do think that there is scope for using social networks within science, but perhaps some of the initial attempts were a but naive. Neither science, nor the potential for the social web will disappear, more likely is that those that can more openly participate (arXiv) will show those less willing the benefits and over a 5-10 year span more people will participate. RSS took seven years to gain widespread adoption. Social network tools will take just as long to become widely adopted, even with Facebook at 200 million plus current users. Semi-private networks are a definite area where this will become more popular, but they are not that well supported at the minute.

Not speaking for Nature.

]]> By: Yes or No: Are Scientists Using Social Media and/or Social Networks? « ResourceShelf http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/10/19/scientists-still-not-joining-social-networks/#comment-5453 Yes or No: Are Scientists Using Social Media and/or Social Networks? « ResourceShelf Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:37:37 +0000 http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/?p=6517#comment-5453 [...] About three weeks ago (10/19/2009), David Crotty posted that how scientists ARE NOT using social [...] [...] About three weeks ago (10/19/2009), David Crotty posted that how scientists ARE NOT using social [...]

]]> By: Yes or Now: Are Scientists Using Social Media and/or Social Networks? « ResourceShelf http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/10/19/scientists-still-not-joining-social-networks/#comment-5451 Yes or Now: Are Scientists Using Social Media and/or Social Networks? « ResourceShelf Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:18:26 +0000 http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/?p=6517#comment-5451 [...] About three weeks ago (10/19/2009), David Crotty posted that how scientists ARE NOT using social [...] [...] About three weeks ago (10/19/2009), David Crotty posted that how scientists ARE NOT using social [...]

]]> By: Scientists Are Using Social Media Tools (and May Be Using Social Networks, Too) « The Scholarly Kitchen http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/10/19/scientists-still-not-joining-social-networks/#comment-5427 Scientists Are Using Social Media Tools (and May Be Using Social Networks, Too) « The Scholarly Kitchen Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:11:29 +0000 http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/?p=6517#comment-5427 [...] David Crotty observed that scientists are not joining social networks. The comments indicated that this might not be a fair generalization, and that adoption in some [...] [...] David Crotty observed that scientists are not joining social networks. The comments indicated that this might not be a fair generalization, and that adoption in some [...]

]]> By: Bench Marks » Blog Archive » Scientists and social networks http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/10/19/scientists-still-not-joining-social-networks/#comment-5382 Bench Marks » Blog Archive » Scientists and social networks Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:26:25 +0000 http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/?p=6517#comment-5382 [...] Scientists Still Not Joining Social Networks [...] [...] Scientists Still Not Joining Social Networks [...]

]]> By: Scientists and Social Networks Continued… « The Scholarly Kitchen http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/10/19/scientists-still-not-joining-social-networks/#comment-5351 Scientists and Social Networks Continued… « The Scholarly Kitchen Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:17:48 +0000 http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/?p=6517#comment-5351 [...] web 2.0 | Leave a Comment  A quick follow-up to last week’s post titled, “Scientists Still Not Joining Social Networks.” The NIH recently announced that they are financing “a network some are calling a [...] [...] web 2.0 | Leave a Comment  A quick follow-up to last week’s post titled, “Scientists Still Not Joining Social Networks.” The NIH recently announced that they are financing “a network some are calling a [...]

]]> By: Diane Harley http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/10/19/scientists-still-not-joining-social-networks/#comment-5211 Diane Harley Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:22:18 +0000 http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/?p=6517#comment-5211 Our research, based on empirical evidence and published, described this phenomenon in some detail in May 2008. Interim Report: Assessing the Future Landscape of Scholarly Communication. http://cshe.berkeley.edu/publications/docs/SC%20Draft%20Interim%20Report%20060808.doc.pdf We are preparing the final report of this study for publication in the coming months. Best, Diane Our research, based on empirical evidence and published, described this phenomenon in some detail in May 2008.

Interim Report: Assessing the Future Landscape of Scholarly Communication.

http://cshe.berkeley.edu/publications/docs/SC%20Draft%20Interim%20Report%20060808.doc.pdf

We are preparing the final report of this study for publication in the coming months.
Best,
Diane

]]> By: thorn http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/10/19/scientists-still-not-joining-social-networks/#comment-5181 thorn Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:38:14 +0000 http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/?p=6517#comment-5181 An additional thought -- at risk of sounding a little 'snarky'. The quality and usefulness of a social network is entirely dependent on its participants and how they make use of the virtual space. The character of a group can't be programmed into an online app yet, as far as I know. The whole can be either better, or worse, than the sum of its parts. I find Facebook to be a time-*saver*. But that is because of how I use it. On Facebook you *can* create a virtual zoo -- but it's not compulsory. Really. An additional thought — at risk of sounding a little ‘snarky’.

The quality and usefulness of a social network is entirely dependent on its participants and how they make use of the virtual space. The character of a group can’t be programmed into an online app yet, as far as I know. The whole can be either better, or worse, than the sum of its parts.

I find Facebook to be a time-*saver*. But that is because of how I use it. On Facebook you *can* create a virtual zoo — but it’s not compulsory. Really.

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