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		<title>By: Scholarly Kitchen to Launch New Electronic Tablet: The briSKet &#171; The Scholarly Kitchen</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/12/15/open-science-debate-democracy-or-dominance/#comment-9359</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scholarly Kitchen to Launch New Electronic Tablet: The briSKet &#171; The Scholarly Kitchen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 09:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] said Joseph. &#8220;But then, while doing product testing for Comment-o-Matic, we noticed that one scholar in particular could detect comments related to his work that were never posted to the Web. To test the [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Democracy in the Educational Institution in 1945 &#8230; and today! &#187; greenbananablog.org</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Democracy in the Educational Institution in 1945 &#8230; and today! &#187; greenbananablog.org]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 19:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Stevan Harnad</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/12/15/open-science-debate-democracy-or-dominance/#comment-6328</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stevan Harnad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 14:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A little Exercise in logic, for the benefit of JE:

SPAM: &quot;Unsolicited e-mail, often of a commercial nature, sent indiscriminately to multiple mailing lists, individuals, or newsgroups; junk e-mail&quot; http://www.thefreedictionary.com/spammer

Since all email list postings are unsolicited, the defining feature of spam is hence *indiscriminate* (otherwise anyone who sends email -- individual or multiple -- is a spammer except if the message was solicited in advance).

I created in 1998 an email list (the American Scientist Open Access Forum) that is devoted to (what is now called) OA.
http://amsci-forum.amsci.org/archives/American-Scientist-Open-Access-Forum.html

Indiscriminate posting to lists means postings that are off-topic. (I don&#039;t think anyone has ever accused me of off-topic posting: My postings are all very tightly focused -- some would say to a fault -- on OA.) 

I post to the AmSci OA Forum, and I often cross-post also to other OA Forums (the SPARC OA Forum and the BOAI Forum), sometimes also to the JISC Institutional Repository Forum, and, where relevant, to two library lists (serialst and liblicence) or, rarely, to a scientmetrics list (sigart).

Now if there is software that links SSP Kitchen blog voting to individuals&#039; email filters, so that blog postings that receive many anonymous SSP blog thumbs-down votes are filtered out of individuals&#039; email (which I rather doubt) then that is a bug in the blog software. I think Kent was probably right that the SSP blog spam filter is not for individual emails but for blog postings, and is based on a URL-count.

So the fact that JE is being deprived of email from me probably has nothing to do with the SSP blog filter for postings. An individual&#039;s email software can filter incoming emails, a blog&#039;s posting software can filter postings, and a blog&#039;s email-alert software can filter individuals&#039; outgoing email alerts for postings to that blog, but they cannot influence other emails to and from individuals.

So I think JE was just trying to say that he feels that I am a &quot;spammer&quot; (and he has since managed to say that more directly in Zoe&#039;s THE blog, together with a mysterious remark about courtesy)...

But I don&#039;t post to express, discuss, or injure feelings. I am here interested in a point of logic: Is &quot;spamming&quot; now to be defined as the frequent, highly discriminating posting (often by way of critique or rebuttal to other postings) on substantive, on-topic points of logic and evidence that happen to be unwelcome to some individuals&#039; ears? Indeed, is that also the definition of &quot;bullying&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little Exercise in logic, for the benefit of JE:</p>
<p>SPAM: &#8220;Unsolicited e-mail, often of a commercial nature, sent indiscriminately to multiple mailing lists, individuals, or newsgroups; junk e-mail&#8221; <a href="http://www.thefreedictionary.com/spammer" rel="nofollow">http://www.thefreedictionary.com/spammer</a></p>
<p>Since all email list postings are unsolicited, the defining feature of spam is hence *indiscriminate* (otherwise anyone who sends email &#8212; individual or multiple &#8212; is a spammer except if the message was solicited in advance).</p>
<p>I created in 1998 an email list (the American Scientist Open Access Forum) that is devoted to (what is now called) OA.<br />
<a href="http://amsci-forum.amsci.org/archives/American-Scientist-Open-Access-Forum.html" rel="nofollow">http://amsci-forum.amsci.org/archives/American-Scientist-Open-Access-Forum.html</a></p>
<p>Indiscriminate posting to lists means postings that are off-topic. (I don&#8217;t think anyone has ever accused me of off-topic posting: My postings are all very tightly focused &#8212; some would say to a fault &#8212; on OA.) </p>
<p>I post to the AmSci OA Forum, and I often cross-post also to other OA Forums (the SPARC OA Forum and the BOAI Forum), sometimes also to the JISC Institutional Repository Forum, and, where relevant, to two library lists (serialst and liblicence) or, rarely, to a scientmetrics list (sigart).</p>
<p>Now if there is software that links SSP Kitchen blog voting to individuals&#8217; email filters, so that blog postings that receive many anonymous SSP blog thumbs-down votes are filtered out of individuals&#8217; email (which I rather doubt) then that is a bug in the blog software. I think Kent was probably right that the SSP blog spam filter is not for individual emails but for blog postings, and is based on a URL-count.</p>
<p>So the fact that JE is being deprived of email from me probably has nothing to do with the SSP blog filter for postings. An individual&#8217;s email software can filter incoming emails, a blog&#8217;s posting software can filter postings, and a blog&#8217;s email-alert software can filter individuals&#8217; outgoing email alerts for postings to that blog, but they cannot influence other emails to and from individuals.</p>
<p>So I think JE was just trying to say that he feels that I am a &#8220;spammer&#8221; (and he has since managed to say that more directly in Zoe&#8217;s THE blog, together with a mysterious remark about courtesy)&#8230;</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t post to express, discuss, or injure feelings. I am here interested in a point of logic: Is &#8220;spamming&#8221; now to be defined as the frequent, highly discriminating posting (often by way of critique or rebuttal to other postings) on substantive, on-topic points of logic and evidence that happen to be unwelcome to some individuals&#8217; ears? Indeed, is that also the definition of &#8220;bullying&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Zoe Corbyn</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/12/15/open-science-debate-democracy-or-dominance/#comment-6294</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zoe Corbyn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 12:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Readers may be interested in this story on the case published in the UK based Times Higher Education magazine:
http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?storycode=409773]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Readers may be interested in this story on the case published in the UK based Times Higher Education magazine:<br />
<a href="http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?storycode=409773" rel="nofollow">http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?storycode=409773</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joseph J. Esposito</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/12/15/open-science-debate-democracy-or-dominance/#comment-6205</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joseph J. Esposito]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Concerning Stevan Harnad&#039;s comment being caught in a spam filter, I discovered that every email sent to me for a period of time that mentioned Harnad had gone to spam, even though I never once tagged Harnad as a spammer.  I believe the explanation is that the cumulative votes by other users, in which Harnad&#039;s posts were tagged as junk, resulted in the algorithm assuming that anything Harnad sent out must in fact be spam.  I have now systematically marked the Harnad items as &quot;not spam,&quot; which may mean that users who are trying to block him are now receiving his messages.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concerning Stevan Harnad&#8217;s comment being caught in a spam filter, I discovered that every email sent to me for a period of time that mentioned Harnad had gone to spam, even though I never once tagged Harnad as a spammer.  I believe the explanation is that the cumulative votes by other users, in which Harnad&#8217;s posts were tagged as junk, resulted in the algorithm assuming that anything Harnad sent out must in fact be spam.  I have now systematically marked the Harnad items as &#8220;not spam,&#8221; which may mean that users who are trying to block him are now receiving his messages.</p>
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		<title>By: Some Memorable Dishes from the Kitchen in 2009 &#171; The Scholarly Kitchen</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/12/15/open-science-debate-democracy-or-dominance/#comment-6191</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Some Memorable Dishes from the Kitchen in 2009 &#171; The Scholarly Kitchen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 10:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Stevan Harnad</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/12/15/open-science-debate-democracy-or-dominance/#comment-6149</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stevan Harnad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many thanks, Kent! -- S]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks, Kent! &#8212; S</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Anderson</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/12/15/open-science-debate-democracy-or-dominance/#comment-6148</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kent Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It got caught by our spam filter. I had to dig it out. Lots of links in a comment will do that sometimes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It got caught by our spam filter. I had to dig it out. Lots of links in a comment will do that sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Stevan Harnad</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/12/15/open-science-debate-democracy-or-dominance/#comment-6147</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stevan Harnad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What became of my posting on learned societies and conflict of interest?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What became of my posting on learned societies and conflict of interest?</p>
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		<title>By: David Worlock &#124; Developing digital strategies for the information marketplace &#124; Supporting the migration of information providers and content players into the networked services world of the future.</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/12/15/open-science-debate-democracy-or-dominance/#comment-6140</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Worlock &#124; Developing digital strategies for the information marketplace &#124; Supporting the migration of information providers and content players into the networked services world of the future.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 23:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] conducted  was the subject of an excellent note by Phil Davis on the SSP Scholarly Kitchen blog( http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/12/15/open-science-debate-democracy-or-dominance/#comment-61...) . Why , he asked on December 15 , does the consultative process set up by the Office of Science [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] conducted  was the subject of an excellent note by Phil Davis on the SSP Scholarly Kitchen blog( <a href="http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/12/15/open-science-debate-democracy-or-dominance/#comment-61" rel="nofollow">http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/12/15/open-science-debate-democracy-or-dominance/#comment-61</a>&#8230;) . Why , he asked on December 15 , does the consultative process set up by the Office of Science [...]</p>
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