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	<title>Comments on: Is Privacy Dead? Only When Exploitation Mixes with Apathy</title>
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		<title>By: The Radical Patron &#8211; extreme thoughts on public libraries &#8211;</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2010/01/19/is-privacy-dead-only-when-exploitation-mixes-with-apathy/#comment-7268</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Radical Patron &#8211; extreme thoughts on public libraries &#8211;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 12:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] analysis of Google and Facebook&#8217;s efforts to reduce privacy expectations, noting that &#8220;nobody survives in a culture in which privacy is not acknowledged as a basic barrier to authority.&#8221; It&#8217;s good to see us becoming more thoughtful about the role technology plays in our [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] analysis of Google and Facebook&#8217;s efforts to reduce privacy expectations, noting that &#8220;nobody survives in a culture in which privacy is not acknowledged as a basic barrier to authority.&#8221; It&#8217;s good to see us becoming more thoughtful about the role technology plays in our [...]</p>
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		<title>By: pupfiction</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2010/01/19/is-privacy-dead-only-when-exploitation-mixes-with-apathy/#comment-6714</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pupfiction]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very interesting and great post. Just when you thought the web titans were on our side, they sell out to consumerism (or apathy) as well. When people continue to talk about a &quot;sustainable environment&quot; for future generations, they need to start including a sustainable intellectual and personal environment as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting and great post. Just when you thought the web titans were on our side, they sell out to consumerism (or apathy) as well. When people continue to talk about a &#8220;sustainable environment&#8221; for future generations, they need to start including a sustainable intellectual and personal environment as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Anderson-Wilk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Anderson-Wilk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Closer to home for scholarly publishers, there is a related long and complicated trend from considering confidentiality ethical to considering transparency ethical in various forms of peer review. I recently submitted an abstract to a conference where all submissions were immediately posted for public viewing before review and selection. What would be the effect on scholarly publishing if all manuscript submissions were made publicly available before review and editing?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Closer to home for scholarly publishers, there is a related long and complicated trend from considering confidentiality ethical to considering transparency ethical in various forms of peer review. I recently submitted an abstract to a conference where all submissions were immediately posted for public viewing before review and selection. What would be the effect on scholarly publishing if all manuscript submissions were made publicly available before review and editing?</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Esposito</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2010/01/19/is-privacy-dead-only-when-exploitation-mixes-with-apathy/#comment-6680</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joseph Esposito]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I don&#039;t want to make any comment about the specific individuals mentioned in this post, the issues touched on here are very important.  I think what lawyers call &quot;a chilling effect&quot; is likely to become increasingly common as people become more aware that the Web is evolving into something like Bentham&#039;s Panopticon, owned and managed by private interests.  Sometimes we have to ask the question not of &quot;What can technology do?&quot; but &quot;What is the nature of the world we want to live in?&quot;  And if we adopt the second question, the follow-on action is to determine who makes these decisions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I don&#8217;t want to make any comment about the specific individuals mentioned in this post, the issues touched on here are very important.  I think what lawyers call &#8220;a chilling effect&#8221; is likely to become increasingly common as people become more aware that the Web is evolving into something like Bentham&#8217;s Panopticon, owned and managed by private interests.  Sometimes we have to ask the question not of &#8220;What can technology do?&#8221; but &#8220;What is the nature of the world we want to live in?&#8221;  And if we adopt the second question, the follow-on action is to determine who makes these decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: David Crotty</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2010/01/19/is-privacy-dead-only-when-exploitation-mixes-with-apathy/#comment-6679</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Crotty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/dec/09/interview-microsoft-researcher-danah-boyd&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Danah Boyd on privacy&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Understanding what&#039;s happening online is especially pertinent while discussions rage about how people&#039;s attitude to privacy is changing – particularly the idea that digital natives have a vastly different approach to privacy from their predecessors. Instead, Boyd says, activities that strike adults as radically new are often more easily understood from the perspective of teenagers.

&quot;Kids have always cared about privacy, it&#039;s just that their notions of privacy look very different than adult notions,&quot; she says. &quot;Kids don&#039;t have the kind of privacy that we assume they do.&quot;

&quot;As adults, by and large, we think of the home as a very private space – it&#039;s private because we have control over it. The thing is, for young people it&#039;s not a private space – they have no control. They have no control over who comes in and out of their room, or who comes in and out of their house. As a result the online world feels more private because it feels like it has more control.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/dec/09/interview-microsoft-researcher-danah-boyd" rel="nofollow">Danah Boyd on privacy</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Understanding what&#8217;s happening online is especially pertinent while discussions rage about how people&#8217;s attitude to privacy is changing – particularly the idea that digital natives have a vastly different approach to privacy from their predecessors. Instead, Boyd says, activities that strike adults as radically new are often more easily understood from the perspective of teenagers.</p>
<p>&#8220;Kids have always cared about privacy, it&#8217;s just that their notions of privacy look very different than adult notions,&#8221; she says. &#8220;Kids don&#8217;t have the kind of privacy that we assume they do.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;As adults, by and large, we think of the home as a very private space – it&#8217;s private because we have control over it. The thing is, for young people it&#8217;s not a private space – they have no control. They have no control over who comes in and out of their room, or who comes in and out of their house. As a result the online world feels more private because it feels like it has more control.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: David Crotty</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2010/01/19/is-privacy-dead-only-when-exploitation-mixes-with-apathy/#comment-6678</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Crotty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To my thinking, this is really a question of finding the right business model.  For sites like Facebook (or newspapers for that matter), users have shown that they&#039;re unwilling to pay for an account/subscription, so the site instead looks for alternate ways to monetize their traffic.  The obvious path is the exploitation of the user.  To those of us who value privacy, this is a gross insult.  For the many already sharing the tawdry details of their life online in the age of the reality show, it&#039;s not a blip on the radar.  That&#039;s why I noted &lt;a href=&quot;http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/12/21/the-unstoppable-corporate-force-meets-the-immovable-social-network/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; that &quot;privacy is the new luxury&quot;.  There are some who don&#039;t care about such things.  For those that do, it&#039;s a business opportunity for the Facebooks out there--can they, for a fee, provide us with the services we want while actively shepherding our privacy, looking out for our best interests rather than looking to exploit us.  You&#039;d have two tiers on any such site, the free users, whose data is constantly fed to anyone willing to pay, and the subscribers who get to control their own experience.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To my thinking, this is really a question of finding the right business model.  For sites like Facebook (or newspapers for that matter), users have shown that they&#8217;re unwilling to pay for an account/subscription, so the site instead looks for alternate ways to monetize their traffic.  The obvious path is the exploitation of the user.  To those of us who value privacy, this is a gross insult.  For the many already sharing the tawdry details of their life online in the age of the reality show, it&#8217;s not a blip on the radar.  That&#8217;s why I noted <a href="http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/12/21/the-unstoppable-corporate-force-meets-the-immovable-social-network/" rel="nofollow">here</a> that &#8220;privacy is the new luxury&#8221;.  There are some who don&#8217;t care about such things.  For those that do, it&#8217;s a business opportunity for the Facebooks out there&#8211;can they, for a fee, provide us with the services we want while actively shepherding our privacy, looking out for our best interests rather than looking to exploit us.  You&#8217;d have two tiers on any such site, the free users, whose data is constantly fed to anyone willing to pay, and the subscribers who get to control their own experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kent Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fixed it. Thanks for letting me know. My brain must have gone soft toward the end.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fixed it. Thanks for letting me know. My brain must have gone soft toward the end.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Budden</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Budden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your final quote is mistakenly attributed to Eric Scheir. The quote is actually from Bruce Schneier. Your link is correct, so I expect it was just a typing mistake.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your final quote is mistakenly attributed to Eric Scheir. The quote is actually from Bruce Schneier. Your link is correct, so I expect it was just a typing mistake.</p>
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