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	<title>Comments on: Information Subscriptions Continue to Evolve and Thrive &#8212; Why Are Publishers Slow to Adapt?</title>
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		<title>By: David Crotty</title>
		<link>http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2010/01/25/do-you-subscribe-to-the-notion-that-information-wants-to-be-expensive/#comment-7259</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Crotty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 23:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An interesting article here, despite the grammar, on subscriptions, passwords and payment methods: &lt;a href=&quot;http://500hats.typepad.com/500blogs/2010/02/subscriptions-are-the-new-black.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Subscriptions are the new black&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting article here, despite the grammar, on subscriptions, passwords and payment methods: <a href="http://500hats.typepad.com/500blogs/2010/02/subscriptions-are-the-new-black.html" rel="nofollow"> Subscriptions are the new black</a></p>
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		<title>By: BMJ Group blogs: BMJ &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What we&#8217;re reading: 29 January 2010</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BMJ Group blogs: BMJ &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What we&#8217;re reading: 29 January 2010]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 10:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: David Crotty</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Crotty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the arguments against DeepDyve are as follows:

1) If this is indeed a good way to sell content, why not roll your own rental service through your own journal?  Why is a  third party middleman necessary?  Are readers likely to use a specialized search engine for this type of content, or Google, which will bring them directly to your journal where you can offer them your own rentals?

2) Is the 99 cent price point reflective of the value of the content or is it based on the market for music sales?  Why not $!.25?  Why not 89 cents?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the arguments against DeepDyve are as follows:</p>
<p>1) If this is indeed a good way to sell content, why not roll your own rental service through your own journal?  Why is a  third party middleman necessary?  Are readers likely to use a specialized search engine for this type of content, or Google, which will bring them directly to your journal where you can offer them your own rentals?</p>
<p>2) Is the 99 cent price point reflective of the value of the content or is it based on the market for music sales?  Why not $!.25?  Why not 89 cents?</p>
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		<title>By: ann michael</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ann michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I saw DeepDyve at the SIIA preview meeting yesterday and LOVED it.  As you probably know, DeepDyve allows users to &quot;rent&quot; articles (view online only for a fixed period of time).  It isn&#039;t a classic subscription (although you can subscribe to DeepDyve, like Netflix, and get so many articles/month and some assorted other term variables).  

The smaller consulting resources in the room (like me) just went nuts.  It&#039;s the perfect model for our consumption habits.  It also tends to convert non-consumers into paying consumers.  Not a bad idea at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw DeepDyve at the SIIA preview meeting yesterday and LOVED it.  As you probably know, DeepDyve allows users to &#8220;rent&#8221; articles (view online only for a fixed period of time).  It isn&#8217;t a classic subscription (although you can subscribe to DeepDyve, like Netflix, and get so many articles/month and some assorted other term variables).  </p>
<p>The smaller consulting resources in the room (like me) just went nuts.  It&#8217;s the perfect model for our consumption habits.  It also tends to convert non-consumers into paying consumers.  Not a bad idea at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kent Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great point, Bill. Adding value is easier and more natural now, so subscribe and enjoy!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point, Bill. Adding value is easier and more natural now, so subscribe and enjoy!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Kasdorf</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Kasdorf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Moving to a subscription model is also tied to understanding that your content changes (or should change) over time. In the past, when content was locked into physical objects, changes were difficult or impossible and certainly unwelcome. We just sold &quot;the book&quot; and that was that. Now that content can easily evolve -- even if it just accumulates commentary or links, but still better if it gets enhanced, augmented, improved over time -- it becomes a more organic thing. Suddenly a subscription model makes way more sense than a one-time purchase model. -- Bill Kasdorf]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moving to a subscription model is also tied to understanding that your content changes (or should change) over time. In the past, when content was locked into physical objects, changes were difficult or impossible and certainly unwelcome. We just sold &#8220;the book&#8221; and that was that. Now that content can easily evolve &#8212; even if it just accumulates commentary or links, but still better if it gets enhanced, augmented, improved over time &#8212; it becomes a more organic thing. Suddenly a subscription model makes way more sense than a one-time purchase model. &#8212; Bill Kasdorf</p>
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		<title>By: David Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been struck by how many media outlets have jumped in to pour scorn on the New York Times and their decision to take 12 months to implement their charging system for access. My reading of the NYT is that they are intending to implement something very sophisticated (for them) in the subscription space, and very easy to understand for the user. 

In reading about, it seems they are going to explore versioning for the content, to try and maximise the returns, but perhaps more than that, to try and do some complex profiling of the NYT users so that the the equation that determines when and at what level a visitor hits the call to pay, is based on an understanding of what bits of the NYT that that particular visitor values. I value bits of the Tech section. The sports, meh. Lifestyle, doubleMeh, so totting those up on my pages visited is bad way to try to get me to convert, better to add that traffic to the ad numbers the NYT still wants to keep. Tech pages though, count those very carefully and then provide me with an offer to pay for the things that I value. If they get this right (and I think they will want to iterate this a bunch of times) they can start to get very flexible with the pricing and price to me, as my interests change over time. They can also add in pricing for access via devices as well... You only use the web? Meh, You use the web/iphone/tablet(whomevers!) and want what you have read/not read to follow you across the devices, there might be a charge for that. Hal Varian&#039;s paper on versioning is well worth the time, if you can keep up with the maths. There are a number of subscription based models spinning off from his thinking. I wonder if the NYT can do bespoke pricing for each of it&#039;s visitors?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been struck by how many media outlets have jumped in to pour scorn on the New York Times and their decision to take 12 months to implement their charging system for access. My reading of the NYT is that they are intending to implement something very sophisticated (for them) in the subscription space, and very easy to understand for the user. </p>
<p>In reading about, it seems they are going to explore versioning for the content, to try and maximise the returns, but perhaps more than that, to try and do some complex profiling of the NYT users so that the the equation that determines when and at what level a visitor hits the call to pay, is based on an understanding of what bits of the NYT that that particular visitor values. I value bits of the Tech section. The sports, meh. Lifestyle, doubleMeh, so totting those up on my pages visited is bad way to try to get me to convert, better to add that traffic to the ad numbers the NYT still wants to keep. Tech pages though, count those very carefully and then provide me with an offer to pay for the things that I value. If they get this right (and I think they will want to iterate this a bunch of times) they can start to get very flexible with the pricing and price to me, as my interests change over time. They can also add in pricing for access via devices as well&#8230; You only use the web? Meh, You use the web/iphone/tablet(whomevers!) and want what you have read/not read to follow you across the devices, there might be a charge for that. Hal Varian&#8217;s paper on versioning is well worth the time, if you can keep up with the maths. There are a number of subscription based models spinning off from his thinking. I wonder if the NYT can do bespoke pricing for each of it&#8217;s visitors?</p>
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		<title>By: David Crotty</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Crotty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, site licenses, same principle.  Individual subscriptions though are tough, given the ubiquity of site licenses for most of our readers.  You would have to, as you note, create a separate product (and then justify to your site licensers why that product was left out of what they were buying).

I do think there&#039;s a lot of potential in remixes and repackaging of material for individual sales though.  We&#039;re already doing this with print, and like everyone else, I&#039;m curious to see the storefront Apple sets up this week, as doing it electronically would be easier/cheaper and allow for more experimentation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, site licenses, same principle.  Individual subscriptions though are tough, given the ubiquity of site licenses for most of our readers.  You would have to, as you note, create a separate product (and then justify to your site licensers why that product was left out of what they were buying).</p>
<p>I do think there&#8217;s a lot of potential in remixes and repackaging of material for individual sales though.  We&#8217;re already doing this with print, and like everyone else, I&#8217;m curious to see the storefront Apple sets up this week, as doing it electronically would be easier/cheaper and allow for more experimentation.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kent Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are your institutional subscriptions really site licenses? I was trying to make it clear in this post that I was really focusing on individual subscriptions, but I probably didn&#039;t succeed. Nevertheless, if your focus is on institutions, that&#039;s kind of my point -- have you abandoned the individual market, or relegated it to such a degree that it&#039;s continued struggles are part of a self-fulfilling prophecy? Could it be vigorous and sustained if monthly subscriptions existed, or weekly online-only feeds, or different product mixes, or the like?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are your institutional subscriptions really site licenses? I was trying to make it clear in this post that I was really focusing on individual subscriptions, but I probably didn&#8217;t succeed. Nevertheless, if your focus is on institutions, that&#8217;s kind of my point &#8212; have you abandoned the individual market, or relegated it to such a degree that it&#8217;s continued struggles are part of a self-fulfilling prophecy? Could it be vigorous and sustained if monthly subscriptions existed, or weekly online-only feeds, or different product mixes, or the like?</p>
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		<title>By: David Crotty</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Crotty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not sure which markets have abandoned subscriptions, but in the biology world, the shift has been away from individual subscriptions and toward institutional subscriptions.  Because most journals appeal to such a limited audience, we&#039;ll never be able to compete with things like the Huffington Post on cost (nor is Amazon&#039;s proposed $9.99 price point ever going to fly for an 800 page specialized laboratory manual).

But the institutional subscription does allow many labs to take advantage of scale and spread the costs of subscribing so each only pays a small portion.  It&#039;s a philosophy in-line with what many institutions are doing for expensive research equipment, setting up shared centers for things like imaging, sequencing and such.  Instead of each lab buying their own microscope, each contributes to a center that can purchase a wider variety of scopes than the lab could afford on its own.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure which markets have abandoned subscriptions, but in the biology world, the shift has been away from individual subscriptions and toward institutional subscriptions.  Because most journals appeal to such a limited audience, we&#8217;ll never be able to compete with things like the Huffington Post on cost (nor is Amazon&#8217;s proposed $9.99 price point ever going to fly for an 800 page specialized laboratory manual).</p>
<p>But the institutional subscription does allow many labs to take advantage of scale and spread the costs of subscribing so each only pays a small portion.  It&#8217;s a philosophy in-line with what many institutions are doing for expensive research equipment, setting up shared centers for things like imaging, sequencing and such.  Instead of each lab buying their own microscope, each contributes to a center that can purchase a wider variety of scopes than the lab could afford on its own.</p>
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